Re Religious Association with Heretics,

Marital Relations, Geocentrism, & Etc.


13 August 2009


Dear Mr. X,


Thank you for your email of 21 April 2009, and thank you for looking closely at The Epistemologic Works. I’m sorry for taking so long to get back to you. Aside from my many secular & religious duties (family to support & govern, prayers & sacred studies to pursue, etc.), I have been much occupied with a very serious rebuttal to the publicly-issued accusation that an early 20th century Bishop of Rome was a formal & manifest heretic. This has become a new book, Was Benedict XV an Antipope?, in the B&A section of my website.


In the meantime, given the number of questions you asked and how serious they are, I wanted to answer them carefully without giving them short-shrift. (In case you’ve forgotten what you wrote or haven’t kept a record, I’ve attached it to this email.) Little ‘yes’ or ‘no’ responses didn’t seem to cut it. On the other hand, should you literally have no spare time to read my responses --- they amount to a few pages --- or if you truly can’t understand what I’m saying, then tell me and I’ll be glad to do whatever I can to make things easier for you. But assuming that’s not the case, then please read them carefully. I’ve run into people who aren’t willing to spend a few minutes doing this and they strike me as being impatient, not to mention know-it-alls who think it’s not worth their time examining something that, they’re convinced, they couldn’t possibly be wrong about.


Maybe you do already know everything I’m about to say and will agree with it; in which case, who doesn’t like finding someone else who’s on the same ‘wavelength’? Or maybe you’ll find one or two or more things that you disagree with. In which case, perhaps my responses will convince you that I’m right. And if a man loves the truth --- especially truth that can save one’s soul --- who could rationally argue against that? Or maybe you’ll see where I’m wrong about something and be able to convince me of the correct position to take. Again… what rational man who loves the truth could argue with that? What charitable man in this situation could fail to take the time to help another to figure out where he’s mistaken, and what he needs to change in order to save his soul?


Which is why I’m taking the time to answer at some length. If we agree on everything, we just might be Catholic brothers (although even then it’d probably take some more effort at communicating to be sure). If we disagree, the one who’s right has a chance to convince the other of his error. In either case, the cause of Saving Truth is served or, at least, not disregarded. Shall we, then, tackle your handful of observations and eighteen questions?


To start with, you observe that I hold both the baptism & salvation dogmas. By this I assume you mean that I consider the Sacrament of Baptism --- and not a mere ‘intention’ or ‘desire’ --- to be absolutely necessary to enter the Body of Jesus, which is the Roman Catholic Church. This is correct. I do hold this position. Too, I assume you to mean that I profess that there is there is absolutely no Salvation outside the Catholic Church: extra Eccesiam nulla Salus. This is also correct. This is my position. In fact, it is the denial of this infallible doctrine that is at the root of the world’s troubles today. People have never much wanted to admit that the Catholic Religion is the only way to save a man’s soul; but in the last few centuries more-and-more Catholics came to deny this dogma, falling out of the Church because of it. This mass betrayal & willful blindness is the cause of the Great Apostasy, which is what St. Paul the Apostle foretold by the Holy Ghost in many of his epistles in the Bible and which is the tragedy that we’re living through right now. (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-11, 1 Timothy 4:1-3, 2 Timothy 3:1-9)


As well, you observe that I say specific abjuration is needed. This is correct. If a man has been validly baptized --- not the fake kind that some Protestants dispense, wherein the form is not observed properly (for instance, saying all of the words first and then dunk into water, after all the words have been said) --- yet professes false religion, then he must, to enter (or re-enter, as the case might be) the Catholic Church, repudiate his religious falsehoods in order to be a member of Jesus’ Ecclesial Body.


You observe that I say there are no Catholic priests. This is correct. Realize, though, how I do not say that there are no priests at all, only that, as far as I can tell at this point, there are no Catholic priests. A man can be validly (truly) ordained as a priest while not practicing licitly (legally) as a priest. To be an illicit priest is to break the law of the Church. Professing heresy is one of those things that causes a validly ordained priest to break the Church’s law. Because if a priest fails to profess the Catholic Faith whole & undefiled, how can he be Catholic? Yet if not Catholic, then how can the Catholic Church allow him to practice within the Church as if he were a Catholic priest? This makes no sense and would permit heresy to run rampant amongst those who are real Catholics, destroying the visibility of the Body of Christ, including eternally murdering the souls who die believing this priest’s religious lies against the truth of Catholic dogma.


You observe that I do not attend Mass. This is correct. You are also correct assuming that I refuse to receive the sacraments from a notoriously & pertinaciously heretical priest or pray in communion with heretics. Again, it is not lawful for a Catholic to do so. To say that a Catholic can do so is like saying that my finger can severe itself from my body to go join with another person’s body in order to use that person’s blood & that person’s flesh for its fingerish needs. Or, sillier yet, that my finger could lay around all by itself unconnected to anything else and survive just fine. Yet if this sounds ludicrous, why do people who call themselves Catholic think that Catholics can worship with heretics as if they are united to them? Or that they can do whatever they want, religiously speaking, apart from anyone else? Such persons don’t understand that the Catholic Church is literally Jesus’ Body --- His One & Only Ecclesial Body.


But then you came to a series of questions for me. I answer them in the same order that you proffered them:


1.)     Do I believe Pius XII was a true pope (and died a true pope)?


To the best of my ability to know & comprehend, he began as a true pope in 1939, lost his papacy in 1951 due to public approval of a form of so-called ‘birth control’ (avoidance of children) within marriage, and died an antipope in 1958.


There are some who think he was an antipope from the start. I have not seen evidence yet, or logic, that demands this to be so. There are others who, near as I can tell, suppose him to have held the papacy till 1958. This seems dubious to me.


Should you wonder what criteria I use to determine this sort of thing, you can get a good idea by reading the aforementioned book, Was Benedict XV an Antipope? Or should you think differently from me about Pius the Twelfth and claim to be Roman Catholic (which I presume you claim to be), then you are welcome to send me evidence & logic which might persuade me to your position.


2.)     Do I believe canonizations are infallible?


No, I do not… no more than I believe papal elections to be infallible. That is to say, that there are popes on earth and that there are saints in Heaven are matters of irreformable dogma. Yet as far as exactly which individual Catholic may actually be a pope on earth or may actually be a saint in Heaven is a matter of hard evidence & solid logic. That this is so when it comes to canonizations is simple to see. For how is it the Church can forbid the veneration of a purported saint when later evidence & logic shows the person to have been unworthy of the honor or, at least, not certainly worth the honor? This would be impossible if a canonization was infallible and hence irreformable!


3.)     Do I believe Catholics can reject canonizations if the evidence shows the person was a heretic or immoral?


To be sure. I would only caution Catholics not to go haywire and behave like Protestants. During the Great Apostasy when a functioning hierarchy is temporarily absent, members of Jesus’ Catholic Body --- layman though he be --- might have to examine the evidence & reasoning very carefully to decide if a purported saint was elevated mistakenly, or elevated wickedly to the altar. The key word is carefully. This takes patience and it demands that a man lay aside his prejudice in the matter to judge impartially. Too, Catholics in such a situation must  examine all of the evidence, for both sides.


4.)     Do I believe one may, when in danger of death, receive sacraments from notoriously heretical priests?


Absolutely not! I cannot stress this enough. Catholics are forbidden to worship with notorious & pertinacious rebels against the Catholic Faith. Therefore, how could a Roman Catholic man think it acceptable to receive the sacraments from such a priest? It gets confusing for some people, however, due to Benedict XV being, at a bare minimum in my opinion, a bad & careless pope. During his reign a newly organized system of Canon Law was issued in 1917. This Canon Law, while admirable in many ways, holds several bad laws, one of which is permission for Catholics, in danger of imminent death, to receive the last rites from a heretical or schismatic priest. This was a novelty and never before permitted till around this point in time, whereupon the novelty was then enshrined in the 1917 Code of Canon Law. To be fair to Benedict XV, perhaps he did not know that this and other bad laws were hidden in the Canon Law of 1917. But if not, he would seem to have been careless. On the other hand, the work on the 1917 Canon Law commenced, if I’ve got my facts straight, prior to the beginning of Benedict’s reign in 1914. As a result, Pius the Tenth may have much to bear of the blame.


Whatever the case, while bad canon law may mislead many Catholics innocently, a Catholic cannot be excused completely for being misled. Just the sheer fact that some have recognized various canon laws to be bad --- and have demonstrated with good logic, founded in infallible dogmas or perpetual practices, that it is so --- is proof that men are not entirely excusable, especially now that the knowledge of these laws’ badness is available for anyone of reasonable intelligence to discover.


Nevertheless, in the case of participating regularly in Mass or going to the confessional booth, there is not even the rather lousy justification of ‘danger of imminent death’. So how can a Catholic possibly conclude that receiving the Eucharist or Penance is permissible from the hands of a notoriously & pertinaciously heretical priest?


5.)     Do I believe that Catholics may passively attend non-Catholic funerals, weddings & other ceremonies?


No, I do not.


I was not alive in the 1950s or earlier, so I cannot speak from eyewitness. Nor have I been Catholic for more than twelve years. Notwithstanding, I have spoken at length with many who were alive back then, and who did claim to practice the Catholic Faith at that time. And from their testimony I can glean that priests in the U.S. of A. were apparently telling their flocks that they could ‘passively attend’ such ceremonies if there was an ‘important’ social, business or political reason for doing so.


This seems to me to be diabolic. Catholics from earliest centuries were forbidden to attend the ceremonies of false religion for whatever reason, period. This is because the private intent of your heart (maybe you don’t believe in the false religion and don’t want to condone it publicly) is nonetheless belied by your public appearance at this ceremony of the false religion, leading anyone who witnesses your attendance to conclude, naturally, that you must condone it. Yet if a Catholic were to protest that he could attend such a ceremony while making it utterly & publicly plain that he disapproves of --- and even condemns --- this false religion, then what’s the difference between doing this and simply going all the way and not attending? What have you to ‘lose’ that you haven’t ‘lost’ already by making your disapproval plain & public?


The conclusion is clear. Catholics are forbidden both by Divine & Ecclesial Law from willingly & knowingly participating in the services or ceremonies of false religions. The idea of ‘passive’ attendance is a ruse. One’s presence itself at the ceremony or service is an active thing, a deed that the Catholic must actively pursue for it to be accomplished. Yet to do so is to break the First Commandment, which states that a man is to have no false gods or false religions in place of the True God & His One True Religion.




6.)     Do I reject the secrets of La Salette?


I assume you to mean, by the ‘secrets’ of La Salette, that particular message & warning of the Blessed Virgin later made public, with the approval of her local bishop, by Melanie (one of the two seers of the apparition) in 1879. If this is true, then my answer is this:


No, I do not reject the secrets of La Salette.


People have tried to say that Melanie was delusional, forgetful or influenced by ‘apocalyptic’ literature. I find these reasons themselves to be delusional & ignorant --- not backed up by hard evidence or reliable eyewitness testimony --- and thus curiously plucked out of thin air by armchair ‘psychologists’ or really bad ‘historians’. Or they have slandered her with being filled with grandiose dreams or unable to succeed at a religious vocation. Now, these latter accusations may be true, yet how is one to know without a careful, studious & patient investigation of her life? And how is one to rightly judge her lack of ‘success’ at a religious vocation, even given that the charge is true, without knowing everything behind the lack of ‘success’? Maybe there has been such an investigation and maybe it is available for the public to examine, but I have never yet found such a thing. Hence, I must suspend judgment in the matter in the meantime.


Or people say that the Vatican forbade reading of Melanie’s secret in the early 20th century, thus implying that this censure stands till this day. Frankly, I would have to look at this claim much more carefully to comment on it fully. All I can say at this point is that what is forbidden at one time, disciplinarily speaking, is not necessarily forbidden at another, later time. Circumstances change, rendering past disciplines or rulings irrelevant... and what has changed since the early 20th century?


The Great Apostasy, that’s what. It’s obvious that Catholics are in an emergency situation where the hierarchy is non-existent and not functioning. Ergo, one must look at Melanie’s secret anew with unbiased eyes even if her secret was rightly & legitimately suppressed by the Vatican near the beginning of the twentieth century. Because unless her secret directly promotes heresy (and this is unlikely, granted that she had the approval of her local bishop at the time to publish it), then upon what grounds does this restriction apply indefinitely? And this is where it gets poignant. Because if one does read her secret very assiduously, thinking it through carefully, one sees that, in 1879, her words have been astonishing, foreseeing future events right down the line for the past 130 years!


This cannot be explained by chance or luck. And those who first discounted her at the end of the 19th century as a well-meaning ‘lunatic’ overly influenced by ‘apocalyptic’ literature are themselves the lunatics were they able to be alive today while tossing out the same slander that they dished out back then.


For either Melanie’s prophetic foresight is of the Devil or it is of the Triune Catholic God. There is no in-between. And yet I find no heresy in her secret. Therefore --- and particularly given that the Apparition of La Salette was approved by the Church --- I must conclude that her secret comes from Heaven, from the lips of the Celestial Queen Herself.


7.)     Do I believe it is permissible to use NFP or the Rhythm Method?


As you may surmise from what I said above about Pius XII, no, I do not. It is not natural for a fertile married couple to avoid bearing fruit in the womb of a wife. No matter what the ‘method’, if the purpose of the method is to avoid having children, then the purpose confounds the design for Holy Matrimony, which is, under normal conditions, to procreate in the Image of God and raise up these children in the Catholic Religion.


8.)     Do I believe it is permissible for married couples to engage in [perverted & shameful acts during marital intimacy]?


Absolutely not. These things defeat the purpose of Holy Matrimony. The purpose of a man & woman coming together as one flesh is for the man to plant his seed within the womb of his wife so that her womb might bear fruit, which fruit is in the Invaluable Image of God Almighty in the form of a child, a mere human being.


End of sentence.


9.)     Do I believe it is permissible for spouses to engage in [marital intimacy] solely for pleasure?


No, I do not. It is tolerable in God’s Sight --- and the Church has never, to my knowledge, officially taught otherwise --- for a man & his wife to enjoy the carnal pleasure that comes along with the act of marital intimacy. Howsobeit, there is a huge difference between enjoying this tolerable pleasure as a result of marital intimacy for the primary sake of procreating children and coveting this carnal pleasure as the sole purpose of coming together in marital intimacy.


The former is permissible. The latter is mortal sin of impurity and leads to further sins of murder & perversion, as well as even more unspeakably hideous crimes against nature.


10.)   Do I believe it is permissible, within marriage, to seek [carnal] pleasure?


It depends on what you mean by “pleasure”. If the pleasure of the flesh during marital intimacy is subordinate to --- i.e., in subjection to --- the primary purpose of the husband planting his seed within the womb of his wife, neither frustrating this primary purpose nor wasting the effort made on behalf of fulfilling this primary purpose, then the carnal pleasure is probably permissible. If, though, the pleasure of the flesh during marital intimacy overrides the primary purpose of the husband planting his seed within the womb of his wife, causing the purpose to be subverted or the effort made on behalf of fulfilling the purpose to be wasted, then it is almost certainly forbidden. Impure & perverted acts of intimacy do not uphold the primary purpose of Holy Matrimony, which is to bear the fruit of children, or they wantonly waste the efforts made by husband & wife to accomplish this primary purpose of bearing children.


There are things which are able to go either way. For instance, kissing is permissible since it leads naturally to the primary act of marital intimacy and is symbolic of the union of the man & wife into one flesh, representing the deeper mystery of Christ & His Holy Church. However, if the kissing becomes excessive --- either of endless duration or of beast-like passion --- then a Catholic must ask himself if he rules over the passions of his flesh or if, instead, the passions of his flesh rule over him. For as any man can see, the passions of his unruly flesh are not exclusive to his wife. That is to say, his carnal passions do not typically become aroused only for the person of his wife; they are able to be aroused by any beautiful & alluring woman, whether or not that woman is his wife! Hence, if he is so ruled by his carnal passions that he indulges, for example, excessive kissing --- either of endless duration or of beast-like expression in its passion --- then what in the world makes him think that he will be able to control this fleshly passion in the presence of any woman other than his wife? At the very least, such an impure man will give himself over, in the privacy of his mind, to impure thoughts about another woman who attracts him, which is the mortal sin of adultery.


This is what I mean by ‘able to go either way’. It is something the man & his wife themselves must judge rightly & govern personally. There is almost no circumstance where another, even an authority, could impose himself and know the facts well enough to dictate to the couple that they are crossing that perilous line. The closest person to be able to do this rightly would be a spiritual director, i.e., a priest to whom the man & his wife confess regularly over the years. Yet Catholics are without such an aid in these times. Ergo, a Catholic man & his Catholic wife must mortify their flesh and seek Heaven’s Will in earnest prayer, avidly seeking the wisdom necessary to distinguish between right & wrong in these cases. Above all, be humble and willing to acknowledge that one’s self is utterly sinful in God’s Sight, and that without His Mercy & Grace, all men --- even Catholics --- are doomed to die forever. Such humility wins from God His assistance toward those who are seeking it in such matters, striving to save their immortal souls, which is only possible within the confines of the Roman Catholic Church.


11.)   Do I believe that unbaptized infants suffer hellfire?


It would seem so. The Council of Florence, if I am not mistaken and I am comprehending its words correctly, appears to directly imply so. On the other hand, Church leaders have made statements to the effect that there is a difference between the punishment of loss (no beatific vision, depriving the lost soul of God’s Presence forever) and the punishment of sense (fire that burns & tortures). Consequently, if an unbaptized child is so young that he dies without committing by his own act any sin at all --- not even venial --- then one can understand why some have concluded that the punishment for them must be the loss of the beatific vision alone. The original sin into which he is conceived is mortal, yet it is by the act of another… not his own deed. He did not commit original sin himself, he merely inherited it.


The thing to remember is that the loss of the beatific vision is greater by far than the torture of fire itself. I know this sounds ridiculous to the worldly mind, but it is true nonetheless. All of the holy saints, of whom I am aware, say that it is so. Thus, even if an unbaptized child suffers nothing except this, then he suffers more horrendously than anything we can usually imagine on this earth. All the same, fire is certainly not ruled out. Some saints have held this position, that unbaptized babes suffer the fire of Hell, too. If you, Mr. X, have compelling evidence & logic that shows unbaptized babes must indeed suffer fire no matter what, then please send this my way. I would be extremely interested.


12.)   Do I believe that the unbaptized are naturally happy and united to God?


You probably already know my answer to this based on what I said above:


No, the unbaptized babe (for this is what I presume you to mean) cannot be ‘naturally happy’ or united to God. Absolutely no way. Nor can any unbaptized soul be ‘naturally happy’ or united to God. It is positively impossible in the hereafter.


13.)   Do I believe Jews are guilty of deicide?


Yes, they are. No individual Jew alive today, or alive after Jesus’ Death but before today, can bear a personal guilt for the Crucifixion, nor could the individual Jew at the time not involved in His Crucifixion bear personal guilt, yet there is such a thing as collective guilt. That is to say, the Jews collectively murdered Christ upon the Cross. And unless a Jewish man converts to the Roman Catholic Church, then he bears, in conjunction with his people by inherited blood (and, truly, by virtue of Jesus’ Blood being upon his head!), the guilt of deicide due to this collective responsibility of the Jews. This is a divine principle.


Should Jews protest this (and they do), then they should ask why they expected Germans to pay, as a nation, reparations for the so-called ‘Holocaust’ after World War II when not even they dare to accuse the vast majority of German individuals of personally jailing or killing a Jew during World War II. What is this if not an acknowledgement of the principle of collective guilt of an entire people? For whether or not someone chooses to believe in a purported ‘Holocaust’, why would Jews expect all Germans as a nation to pay them back for their suffering when, in fact, most Germans did not imprison or execute a Jew personally?


14.)   Do I believe Mary is Co-Redemptrix?


Yes, I do. If I have my facts straight, no pope has ever solemnly affirmed that it is so. Hence, a Catholic could refuse to use this term and not commit heresy or mortal sin in doing so. Nevertheless, I don’t think it wise to take such a position. Theologically speaking, most, if not all, of the rational objections to such a title have been soundly rejoindered. In simple terms, calling the Blessed Ever-Virgin Mary the Co-Redemptrix is really no different than stating, as a Catholic, “Ad Jesum per Mariam.” (“To Jesus through Mary.”) No real Catholic by saying She is the Co-Redemptrix intends to equate Her to Her Son, as if She is equal to Him. He is the One Mediator between God & men; She is simply the Greatest Sub-Mediator between He & men.


Understood thusly, there is nothing wrong with the title of Co-Redemptrix. It is proper to Her, and only fitting that She be honored as such. How glorious is the Queen of Highest Heaven!


[WEBMASTER’S NOTE:  The term ‘Co-Redemptress’ --- or ‘Co-Redemptrix’ --- is defended at much greater, though still modest, length in the webpage entitled The Term ‘Co-Redemptress’ for the Blessed Virgin Mary Is Neither Heretical Nor Scandalous to the Catholic Faith. You may link directly to this webpage via the title just given, or go to the Letters & Admonishments section where all titles are listed together, including this one. Should you have doubts about this title for the Virgin Mary, dear reader, or if you oppose it violently, then you are morally obligated to read this much more detailed & powerful defense on behalf of Her God-Given Celestial Privileges.]


15.)   Do I believe God created the world in 6 days?


Yes, I do. Precisely speaking, a Catholic does not now --- at this point in time --- have to believe that the days spoken of in Genesis are 24-hour days, or even days of a little lesser or greater duration (there is at least one early Church Father, apparently, who thought the days of creation represented eras of long duration). Where a Catholic crosses the line into heresy, however, is to dare to say (or even think privately!) that God did not make His creatures, and especially human beings, according to a purposeful design. To wit, any kind of notion based on random chance or chaos, wherein creation & creatures ‘evolved’ into what they are out of disorder and via an ultimate lack of intelligent direction.


16.)   Do I believe God created Adam from the dust of the earth, and Eve from Adam’s rib?


Yes, I do. The first (Adam from dust) is beyond contesting. Eve from St. Adam’s rib could be taken to be a ‘metaphor’ for Adam’s side, near his heart, if a Catholic insisted on seeing it this way, but there is absolutely no reason why it couldn’t be that God formed St. Eve literally from Adam’s rib. He’s God, Who made everything out of nothing, so what’s the big problem with Him forming woman from the rib?


Nothing at all. Only foolish prejudice would demand otherwise.


17.)   Do I believe in Copernicanism or Geocentrism?


Geocentrism. Or, to be really exact, Geocentricity (or, if you prefer, Tychonian Geocentrism). Classic Geocentrism posits that everything in the heavens rotates around the earth in a simple circle. Tychonian Geocentrism posits that everything in the heavens rotates around the sun, which in turn rotates around the earth. (There is a logical reason for this distinction, which I won’t go into here. Suffice it to say, though, that in either case, everything in the heavens goes ultimately around the earth, not the earth rotating around its own axis.)


This is not a holy dogma of the Catholic Church, although it ought to be in my opinion. In other words, since the Church has not infallibly defined the matter yet, then Catholics can choose to think that the earth is not physically at the center of creation. When first grappling with this notion at the time of Galileo, the beef of Catholic leaders with the new idea was not that it opposed an infallible doctrine of the Church, but that it seemed to contradict the statements of Sacred Scripture and the common consensus of all men since ancient times, not just the widespread sentiment of Catholics. It was still allowed to be proposed as a system for convenient calculation of the mathematics involved in celestial mechanics. That is to say, if it simplified calculations for finding the position of, say, Venus in the night sky, then the leaders of the Church had no problem with the Copernican system being used as such --- provided it wasn’t presented as a proven certainty. And, in fact, Galileo’s much ballyhooed recanting amounted to exactly that: that he pulled back from presenting it in his book or writings as a certainty and merely proposed it as a convenient means of calculating the movement of the heavenly bodies in the skies.


Later, when heliocentrism had won the battle for hearts & minds by the 19th century, even amongst Catholics, the leadership of the Church backed away from not letting it be taught as a certainty, the thinking being that it had been ‘proven’ beyond reasonable doubt. This was not the case since the logic used to ‘prove’ heliocentrism is poor logic in many cases, nonetheless, this is what transpired. Which was unfortunate, because the enemies of the Church then wielded this capitulation, upon the part of the world as a whole and on the part of Catholics, too, against the Catholic Church, making it look like the Church had infallibly condemned heliocentrism (which they hadn’t) and had suppressed heliocentrism entirely (which they didn’t, instead allowing Catholics to entertain heliocentrism as a convenient system for celestial calculations all over the place). This, of course, then paved the way for acceptance of Darwinism amongst academia, those most disposed by human pride to fight against the Roman Catholic Church & Her Infallible Dogmas.


The point is, X, if you or another were to try to say that a Catholic is automatically a formal heretic by dint of believing in Copernicanism, then the Church has not had a pope since at least the early 1800s. Because it is plain that every pope since then, if not even earlier in the 1700s, has accepted heliocentrism as a physically proven fact. But if those who call themselves Catholic are not willing to go this far, then they must concede --- especially in light of the fact that the Church never infallibly condemned Copernicanism (leastwise, not that I have been able to tell thus far) or solemnly defined some form of Geocentrism as an infallible truth --- that Catholics are not bound as of yet by the infallible teaching of the Church to reject heliocentrism & embrace its opposite.


The danger, though, is still there. Accepting Copernicus’ theory as a fact is the first step on a road that eventually can lead to heresy. A Catholic needn’t end up taking this road all the way; but given that he takes the first step, he is that much closer to taking the rest of the steps. Which is what, naturally, Catholics of worldly education by the 19th century were doing, taking those perilous steps the rest of the way. Now that we are in the Great Apostasy, it is a little bit easier to see how this happened and where the fatal flaws in our forefathers’ thinking lay. Therefore, if truly Catholic, then a thinking man’s job is clear today… to expose those fatal flaws, undo those perilous steps, and take away obstacles that keep modern minds from leaving the errors that they so naively believe when it comes to the movement of the heavens.


18.)   Do I believe the world could have always existed?


No. The world was created out of nothing --- ex nihilo --- by the Almighty Triune Catholic God. Ergo, if created out of nothing, then there was a beginning. And if a beginning, then there was a ‘time’ when the world did not exist.


Case closed.


To posit that the world has always existed is to posit, sooner or later, pantheism. Or, if not pantheism outright, then a lesser form of pantheism like monism. There is no way around it. Either God is eternal or the world is eternal. Rationally speaking, eternity is inescapable. To assume that everything which exists, whether God or world, began suddenly at a certain point of ‘time’ is absurd, like picking fruit out of nothing or solid objects out of thin air. Only an Eternal God can pick fruit out of nothing since He is the primal & ultimate cause of all that exists, there being nothing ‘before’ Him since He is Eternal and nothing can come before Eternity, by logical definition. What is even more ridiculous, however, logically speaking, is to presume an eternal world, which is a world without a God. Because how can something that is not conscious pick anything at all? Yet if a man were to claim that the world is conscious, then what is the difference between this and God? Except that in this conception of things, his ‘god’ makes everything out of himself and not out of nothing. Although even this philosophical limitation is under attack since, in the latest quantum mechanical hypothesizing of so-called ‘scientists’, the world does create out of nothing via ‘virtual particles’ that blip into existence for no apparent reason at all. When scholarly yet modernistic minds get the two together (self-conscious world plus creation out-of-nothing), then all Hell breaks loose.




Well, my dear sir, I hope this answers your questions about me adequately. If you are satisfied with what I have said, then please let me know and allow me the chance, if you would, to question you, too. Or, if you have a serious difficulty with something I have said, then please calmly explain your concern and I will do my best to think it through, seeing if you might be right. Meanwhile, be you truly Catholic, then I pray for the graces that you might work out your salvation with fear & trembling, dying a good death in the Mercy of Christ and with the Intercession of His Blessed Mother. Or, if you are not truly Catholic, then I beg for the graces that you will search for, find, acknowledge & profess all of the core dogmas of Holy Mother Church, entering Her Sanctuary via the Door of Baptism --- or re-entering via the portal of abjuration --- and persevere therein unto the Hope of Eternal Salvation.


Yours sincerely in the Charity of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus & Mary,


                                                                   -Paul Doughton


P.S.:  Thank you for the thoughtfulness of your words, both in terms of courtesy expressed and in terms of apologizing for the explicitness of some of your questions. I appreciate this kindness.


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